I have repeatedly tried to get any reliable statistics about the UK’s death rates, it is not easy, which is odd because it has never been easier to accumulate data or distribute information.
Now that I have the reliable numbers, I still can not swallow the 'panic pill' surrounding the Corona Virus !
For sure many people have died and in many cases the corona virus could be found in their bodies, but it was not the cause of death.
Just after the first wave, the leading coroner in Hamburg, Germany did autopsies on all listed corona victims. Not a single one had died of the virus ! They had all died of all of the usual causes of death: brain defects, breathing & circulatory disorders, organ failure, diabetes, cancers etc. etc..
All of those things that are NORMAL in older people.
The only true measure of the death rate is the total number of deaths in a year and this must be seen in direct relation to the size of the population.
In 2020 this rate was 9,4 deaths per 1000 people in the population.
Before the year 2000 the death rate was alway over 10 per 1000.
Indeed before the year 1995 it was always over 11 per 1000, going all the way back to 1950 when such records were first calculated in this way.
9,4 deaths per 1000 is for sure more than had been dying per year since 2007, indeed, in 2013 it got down to 9,0 per thousand, but had again been rising steadily ever since.
This is because medicine and operations had continually improved and generally people were getting older. Suddenly all these ‚older people's illnesses' have caught up on them. The Corona Virus just weakened them and their other illnesses killed them.
The problem that I see with he corona jabs is:
Once you have had it, you can still carry and spread the virus !
It is said that once you have had the jabs, if you yourself become ill, it will be less severe and this may prevent you from having to go to hospital, which is of course a key issue.
The main reason being that: in hospital you might get intubated and this could actually „reduce your chances of survival“.
An early study of patients treated showed that of those NOT intubated only 8% eventually died. Of those intubated almost 70% died .
This should not surprise anybody who realises that by avoiding the mouth and nose, the throat and natural airways, all of which have filters and immune systems to fight off invading microbes in the air, then get bypassed by ‚the tube’ and the contaminated air goes straight into the lungs.
This is and was well know before Corona and therefor it is hard to understand why intubation was even used. In my view it was a crazy act of desperate panic, there being no other way to try and save a dying person.
Medicine can not prevent people from dying of old age and wear and tear, often with decades of self abuse !
Who do we think we are GOD ?
This Corona Panic has now led the authorities to want to start jabbing younger, healthy people. This is in my view very questionable.
Young healthy people have nothing to fear from the Corona Virus. Most do not even realise that they have had it. I personally know of many cases of people in their 90’s who went into hospital for other treatments, caught corona in hospital and came out as well as a 90 year old can be and they are still alive today !
My conclusion must be that the corona virus, like any other virus, weakens the infected person and if they are not otherwise ill they will recover.
We humans are confronted every second of every day with viruses bacteria and millions of other beasties trying to eat away at us, that is life, that is nature, nothing and nobody lives for ever, not even the mountains.
The young people MUST get the virus to develop their own natural immunity !
They do not need artificial aids: how many runners use crutches ?
You cant fix what is not broken !
Why are people not tested for their ‚natural immunity‘ before being jabbed ? This could have saved millions of people with natural immunity from using up the apparently desperately short stocks of the vaccine .
One final word:
The birth rate world wide is well over 10 per 1000 people and so even during this so called crisis the worlds population continues to increase.
Does anybody remember us passing the 700,000,000,000 mark just a few years ago ?
Well shortly we shall pass the 8 billion mark. This proves that we humans are spreading faster than the corona virus !
The truth is hard to swallow
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Hi Bill
As usual you have done your research and exposed a very interesting argument for the so called " Experts" well done may I suggest you should put up for politics or forward this to your parliamentary office and se how they react.
Take care both of you M&M max woof woof
As usual you have done your research and exposed a very interesting argument for the so called " Experts" well done may I suggest you should put up for politics or forward this to your parliamentary office and se how they react.
Take care both of you M&M max woof woof
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Bill and Mick, (is anybody else there?)
Agree totally with Mick, you do your research very thoroughly.
Actually very early on, being addicted to You Tube, I saw many pundits, many of who were doctors too, said that, not only Germany, but also UK and
USA, Coroners were being told not to carry out Autopsies but to just put the deaths down to Covid. You all know me and my rantings ever since listening to some of them 'experts' I definitely came to the conclusion that basically it was a scam and a very big one.
Being in the "danger" group and in a retirement village, our doctors stopped all people going to see the doctor at the medical centre and instead introduced a system of home visits. An appointment was made and he duly arrived, all PPE'd up. In our case while he was calling on Brenda he insisted that we have another Flu jab despite the fact that I had had one a few months before. Why? Covid seems to me just a Flu epidemic, yes a very virulent strain of flu but a flu just the same. Have had another flu jab since and have had my first vaccine jab. Next one in July. More needles than in the Army!
When it is all 'over' and the statistics are analysed I am convinced the extreme panic was all for nought, and the Pharma Industry giants will have doubled their wealth and Dr Fauchi and his minions will be a very wealthy men and they may get to spend it if they ever gets out of jail!!!!
In the meantime I will go on believing, as I have done from early in the "Pandemic" that we have been hood-winked, but will we get our rights back that have been eroded. Woof, Woof,
Arnie and Brenda
Agree totally with Mick, you do your research very thoroughly.
Actually very early on, being addicted to You Tube, I saw many pundits, many of who were doctors too, said that, not only Germany, but also UK and
USA, Coroners were being told not to carry out Autopsies but to just put the deaths down to Covid. You all know me and my rantings ever since listening to some of them 'experts' I definitely came to the conclusion that basically it was a scam and a very big one.
Being in the "danger" group and in a retirement village, our doctors stopped all people going to see the doctor at the medical centre and instead introduced a system of home visits. An appointment was made and he duly arrived, all PPE'd up. In our case while he was calling on Brenda he insisted that we have another Flu jab despite the fact that I had had one a few months before. Why? Covid seems to me just a Flu epidemic, yes a very virulent strain of flu but a flu just the same. Have had another flu jab since and have had my first vaccine jab. Next one in July. More needles than in the Army!
When it is all 'over' and the statistics are analysed I am convinced the extreme panic was all for nought, and the Pharma Industry giants will have doubled their wealth and Dr Fauchi and his minions will be a very wealthy men and they may get to spend it if they ever gets out of jail!!!!
In the meantime I will go on believing, as I have done from early in the "Pandemic" that we have been hood-winked, but will we get our rights back that have been eroded. Woof, Woof,
Arnie and Brenda
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Howdy,
I'm here to tell you COVID is very real - I've had it.
It was ALWAYS a strain of a flu - just called COVID 19 and it KILLS.
Pinky
I'm here to tell you COVID is very real - I've had it.
It was ALWAYS a strain of a flu - just called COVID 19 and it KILLS.
Pinky
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Mick, Arnie,
my thanks to you both, I don't get many people agreeing with me and I understand why, when just so many are singing from the other song sheet.
It's a bit like the old saying "eat shit, 1000 billion flies can't be wrong" , I choose to disagree .
Just because the vast majority agree it does NOT make something factually correct !
This line of thought would make lynching legal, because the majority present thought it was the right thing to do .
Mick you have suggested before that I should consider going into politics. Thanks, but I prefer to be able to shout out the truth as I see it and not fall into the inescapable swamp of owing someone a favour or being exposed for things that I might have done or said in my teens.
Pinky, nobody is denying that Corona is real and that it can be a tough ride and even actually cause death in some rare cases. There have indeed been cases, especially of medical staff without underlaying conditions succumbing to Corona. But remembering what Paracelsus is reported to have said: "everything is poisonous, it's all a question of the dosage" (or words to that effect). Those brave medical staff were in the thick of it, surrounded by highly infectious patients for many hours, day after day. They got such large repeated doses that not even their strong bodies could withstand the constant attacks of Corona. RiP, my respect and gratitude to those who gave their all and paid the ultimate price.
Thank you also for having the balls to express your own opinion, reflecting the reality that you experience. I always try to see things from all sides and the more perspectives that I get helps me to form my own opinion. Being one of ten kids I learned to shout, kick and scream as a baby and I have turned into a big mouthed thumper that moans a lot.
If more people would express their opinion perhaps I could see into the light of the Sun as well as that of the Moon .
But facts remain facts: 80% of the dead were over 80 years old and there has not been a significant increase in the total death rate as a percentage of the UK population.
The regions and nations with the highest level of 'incidence' are those that can afford to test more .
In Africa, where there is hardly any testing, so they are apparently less affected, is that logical .
In India, where the world was in total panic just a few short weeks ago countless millions must now be infected and they are, but millions are not dying in the streets as the panic makers forecast, WHY ?
They had a surge of old, ill and weak people dying, just like China, Russia, Italy, Spain, Germany, the USA & Brazil, once Mother Nature has knocked the top off the mountain of people, the old, the ill and the weak always go first, then we shall see how serious this virus really is.
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my thanks to you both, I don't get many people agreeing with me and I understand why, when just so many are singing from the other song sheet.
It's a bit like the old saying "eat shit, 1000 billion flies can't be wrong" , I choose to disagree .
Just because the vast majority agree it does NOT make something factually correct !
This line of thought would make lynching legal, because the majority present thought it was the right thing to do .
Mick you have suggested before that I should consider going into politics. Thanks, but I prefer to be able to shout out the truth as I see it and not fall into the inescapable swamp of owing someone a favour or being exposed for things that I might have done or said in my teens.
Pinky, nobody is denying that Corona is real and that it can be a tough ride and even actually cause death in some rare cases. There have indeed been cases, especially of medical staff without underlaying conditions succumbing to Corona. But remembering what Paracelsus is reported to have said: "everything is poisonous, it's all a question of the dosage" (or words to that effect). Those brave medical staff were in the thick of it, surrounded by highly infectious patients for many hours, day after day. They got such large repeated doses that not even their strong bodies could withstand the constant attacks of Corona. RiP, my respect and gratitude to those who gave their all and paid the ultimate price.
Thank you also for having the balls to express your own opinion, reflecting the reality that you experience. I always try to see things from all sides and the more perspectives that I get helps me to form my own opinion. Being one of ten kids I learned to shout, kick and scream as a baby and I have turned into a big mouthed thumper that moans a lot.
If more people would express their opinion perhaps I could see into the light of the Sun as well as that of the Moon .
But facts remain facts: 80% of the dead were over 80 years old and there has not been a significant increase in the total death rate as a percentage of the UK population.
The regions and nations with the highest level of 'incidence' are those that can afford to test more .
In Africa, where there is hardly any testing, so they are apparently less affected, is that logical .
In India, where the world was in total panic just a few short weeks ago countless millions must now be infected and they are, but millions are not dying in the streets as the panic makers forecast, WHY ?
They had a surge of old, ill and weak people dying, just like China, Russia, Italy, Spain, Germany, the USA & Brazil, once Mother Nature has knocked the top off the mountain of people, the old, the ill and the weak always go first, then we shall see how serious this virus really is.
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Sorry Bill, but I agree with Pinky. Having seen a local guy, go into hospital about 3 months ago. He was a keen runner, walked everywhere very rarely used a car or bus. Real heathy guy. But now after corvid he can't even walk to his front gate, and then he has to use a frame. His carers just plonk him in a garden chair.
And he is about 20 years younger than me.
CORVID IS REAL . It maybe a severe form of flu, but it is deadly. real deadly.
But Bill statistics can be made to say what ever you want.
And he is about 20 years younger than me.
CORVID IS REAL . It maybe a severe form of flu, but it is deadly. real deadly.
But Bill statistics can be made to say what ever you want.
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John,
thanks for your feedback. You are for sure right about statistics, never trust one that you did not yourself falsify .
In this case however I have not created the statistics. I have taken them from the United Nations published figures, I'm just interpreting them, putting them into perspective.
As for your chap who reacted badly, that can happen to lots of people, all they need is some part of their body that opens the door to the virus instead of fighting it. That is the result of an immune system deficiency.
If 100 people go swimming in a river and 99 have no side effects but one gets the shits or worse, does that make the water a public danger or 99% safe ? Or did he perhaps have a bug before he went in the water ? Did he alone perhaps sit in some viral duck shit or badger/ fox piss on the river bank or did he perhaps swallow some of the water ? Nobody knows anything, so should we ban swimming in the water because of an apparent danger ? That is what they have done because of Corona !
As far as I am aware no country in the world has lost more than 1% of its population to Corona. 1% of the population per year is about a NORMAL average death rate. The UK, had 11,9 per 1000 head of population in 1977 and 1978, last year it was just 9,4, well under 1%.
To put that in perspective: if the UK has 70 million people it would be NORMAL for 700,000 people to die in a year. It's the old age thing, sickness, accidents, suicides and murders etc.. If we were talking about having lost a million people in the past year I would swallow the story hook line and sinker, but that simply is not the case !
Everybody: Please do feel free to do some checks for yourself and let us all know the results .
thanks for your feedback. You are for sure right about statistics, never trust one that you did not yourself falsify .
In this case however I have not created the statistics. I have taken them from the United Nations published figures, I'm just interpreting them, putting them into perspective.
As for your chap who reacted badly, that can happen to lots of people, all they need is some part of their body that opens the door to the virus instead of fighting it. That is the result of an immune system deficiency.
If 100 people go swimming in a river and 99 have no side effects but one gets the shits or worse, does that make the water a public danger or 99% safe ? Or did he perhaps have a bug before he went in the water ? Did he alone perhaps sit in some viral duck shit or badger/ fox piss on the river bank or did he perhaps swallow some of the water ? Nobody knows anything, so should we ban swimming in the water because of an apparent danger ? That is what they have done because of Corona !
As far as I am aware no country in the world has lost more than 1% of its population to Corona. 1% of the population per year is about a NORMAL average death rate. The UK, had 11,9 per 1000 head of population in 1977 and 1978, last year it was just 9,4, well under 1%.
To put that in perspective: if the UK has 70 million people it would be NORMAL for 700,000 people to die in a year. It's the old age thing, sickness, accidents, suicides and murders etc.. If we were talking about having lost a million people in the past year I would swallow the story hook line and sinker, but that simply is not the case !
Everybody: Please do feel free to do some checks for yourself and let us all know the results .
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Pinky, John,
bringing this a bit closer to home: Friends of ours, giants of men in many different ways: Brian Draper, Skip Rea, Phil Baldwin, Bob Winch, to name but a few, died long before Corona and long before they had reached the age of 80 or 70, dear Bob could have hardly been 60. The bravest and the best have always 'gone' early. That is the way of the world in which we humans live.
For it is written:
They shall grow not old
as we that are left grow old
Age shall not weary them
nor the years condemn
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we shall remember them.
In the Bible it is written that a man should live to be 3 score and 10, that's 70, so anybody reaching or passing that fine old age has had a good innings. Even in a game of cricket not every batsman ever reaches a century.
The moving finger writes and, having writ,
Moves on; Nor all Thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
Nor all thy tears wash out a Word of it. (corrected for accuracy)
Also remembering those that did their duty 77 years ago and the millions who came home but never reached the Biblical age of 70, for whatever reason, long before Corona. RiP.
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bringing this a bit closer to home: Friends of ours, giants of men in many different ways: Brian Draper, Skip Rea, Phil Baldwin, Bob Winch, to name but a few, died long before Corona and long before they had reached the age of 80 or 70, dear Bob could have hardly been 60. The bravest and the best have always 'gone' early. That is the way of the world in which we humans live.
For it is written:
They shall grow not old
as we that are left grow old
Age shall not weary them
nor the years condemn
At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we shall remember them.
In the Bible it is written that a man should live to be 3 score and 10, that's 70, so anybody reaching or passing that fine old age has had a good innings. Even in a game of cricket not every batsman ever reaches a century.
The moving finger writes and, having writ,
Moves on; Nor all Thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
Nor all thy tears wash out a Word of it. (corrected for accuracy)
Also remembering those that did their duty 77 years ago and the millions who came home but never reached the Biblical age of 70, for whatever reason, long before Corona. RiP.
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WE WILL REMEMBER THEM.
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Bill,
you said earlier that you would not take somebody's advice and become a politician: how about becoming a 'Poet Laureate' ?:lol:
Arnie
you said earlier that you would not take somebody's advice and become a politician: how about becoming a 'Poet Laureate' ?:lol:
Arnie